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Just some information.
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Nå - men vi skal jo til d...
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The Update of the Year
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All the sudden...waste of...
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Here we go again.....
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Star No Merry Christmas to you!!
Posted by: Bogor - 27-12-2019, 08:34 AM - Forum: Mike Poulos E65/+20K/VSB scam - Replies (6)

Mikey boy is pissed ohhh he is so pissed and therefore no Merry Christmas to you nor Happy 2020 and how come that may be so you might ask.

The answer is simple, too many of you have been naughty, and emailed Mikes partner in Crime Jeff Gordon and in simple wording said that you are tired of Mikes repeated lies like "Be ready", or sign documents in Hong Kong a year ago, not to mention al his really non-saying and so-called updates.

It is time to just accept that Mike and Jeff can't and won't admit that they have been bull shitting all for 2 decades and trust me, it will continue in 2020, and there will gullible fools that will defend Mikey and his equal criminal friend Jeff, and send money to Mike so Mike can pay Jeff - ohhh sorry Jeff have been working for free the last 20 years, quite normal in USA - or something.

Anyway, I wish that all will enter 2020 in a healthy way and that 2020 will be the year where Mike and Jeff grow some balls and tell you the truth.

It was and it is a scam, live with it and get on with your lives. 

In closing I will come with a spoiler alert - there won't be any payout in 2020, no dollar stuffed foundations, and in late December 2020, I'm going to wish all a Merry Christmas and a happy 2021

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Heart Just some information.
Posted by: Bogor - 17-12-2019, 08:52 AM - Forum: Mike Poulos E65/+20K/VSB scam - No Replies

Indonesia is a country with lots of red tape and corruption - you got funds, you can get what you want - no limits what so ever.

However slowly but sure Indonesia starts to control its infrastructure when it comes to taxation. Just like many other places in the world companies (many places also privates) have to self-report income in order to pay correct taxes and the Indonesian national bank, Bank Indonesia or in short BI, wants to know how much money the company has sent in and out the country. 

In other words, if Mike really had a company in Bogor, he would have to tell the authorities just how much money E65, +20k, VSB or whatever name he call his scam, have in HSBC bank, so IF Mike really had a company then he also, and down to the last cent, knew just how much money he would have to pay each and everyone - including interest.

Remember Mike "fired" the so-called Team a long time ago, so there is Mike and no one else, means that Mike knows all regards laws, rules, and numbers in Indonesia.


The link shows the letter all companies receive from BI in order to follow laws and taxation. 

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all.


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  New Update
Posted by: scandoz - 16-12-2019, 07:33 AM - Forum: Mike Poulos E65/+20K/VSB scam - Replies (1)

As crafty as an old fox,get people believing that they will get even more money and appeal to the greed thats in all of us
lets see if he asks for more money

Hi Guys,

Sorry took longer than expected as always.

What I can only give you for now is for VSB members, all these years of waiting is coming soon to be compleated. Now, I do not have a date and if I did, I would not give it sp please do not ask.

What I do have is this.

All VSB members will be getting more than expected. Why? Interest on the funds....

In the past, many have asked about the interest and i have always said no as I did not know for sure.

Anyhow, I do not know the amount but I do know that it is componded so what ever it is, an added bonus.

For Ex Members, a seperate update will come.

Once I have more news, I will share.


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Star Nå - men vi skal jo til det! Translated it is "Well - we have to do it!"
Posted by: Bogor - 09-12-2019, 08:59 AM - Forum: Mike Poulos E65/+20K/VSB scam - Replies (1)

Nå - men vi skal jo til det! Translated it is "Well - we have to do it!"

My first warning regards Mike Poulos E65 scam was December 2004. The first thing this "friend" did was calling Mike and tell that the danish guy have said all is a scam. 

I don't know if any of our estimated 450 regular readers can imagine just how furious Mike got?  Angel

Anyhow once again we have a December, and yes once again we can conclude that the few Mike Poulos believers got cheated.

Once again I can say, that Christmas 2020 you will see a similar post, and in 2021, 2022 etc. 

Shortly we will see an update from Mike Poulos wishing you all a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, spiced up with some blablabla that will be interpreted as "Moneywillcomesoon" by the few Mike Poulos believers, and even a few of these "blind" people will send some more cash to Mike.

That is life and we can't save all in the world  Shy and for that reason, we might see some 400 look-a-like posts including the exact same messages in 2020  Tongue

I wish you all a very Merry Christmas and the very best for 2020.

4 more days and the holiday is a fact.

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Thumbs Up EX-Foundation 'members' :
Posted by: soliel - 24-11-2019, 12:46 PM - Forum: Mike Poulos E65/+20K/VSB scam - Replies (10)

Does anyone remember that the ex-foundation 'members' were supposed to fly to Hong Kong in JANUARY 2019?

That will soon be a year.......yeah....

And does anyone remember when "updates" were being done on the VSB site, in OCTOBER 2014 there was an "update" that said 'GET READY".  Just those two words.  Does anyone know what that meant since we are now 5 YEARS past that ??

Since this monumental scam has been going on for 20 years [yes since 1999], I wonder how many 'members' and 'downline' have already died ?

I thank ahead of time, anyone who can help me with these questions.

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Big Grin blablablablablaaaaaa
Posted by: Bogor - 13-11-2019, 11:42 AM - Forum: Mike Poulos E65/+20K/VSB scam - Replies (3)

For sure Mike have had a great monday evening with at little too much red wine - again. Typos is okay but the rubish below - what can I say  Dodgy

Soon we will be in 2020 and guess what. You have not seen ANYTHING from Mike.

Please remember this. THERE IS ONLY MIKE!! NO TEAMS - NOTHING!

Have a great day - 17 days to December and then Christmas time will come over us all.

Hi All,

Been getting lots of emails and Text that it has been a month since the lst update.

I have not received anything other than once they are ready, it will go fast but to date, they are not ready.

As for banking, they are still in the works. All banking had to change... This is a huge task to do.

For members, it will be the same, no changes there. Just the bank has been changed from one to an other.

For foundation members, again, will be same.

For Ex Fdtn members, the notice will be a short one. If one can not travel, then all can be done via video and courier.

As mentioned before, all packages will be sent from your country of residence and will be done at all the same time....

From there, it will be up to you how fast you reply.

Once I have more news, I will share but this is all I have for now.

I may have more this week or in a few weeks. When I do, I will post. If I DO NOT, there these is nothing to post.

For people asking me can you give me more, I will keep to my self, please do not as I will or can not give more than I give here.



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Thumbs Down The Update of the Year
Posted by: Bogor - 15-10-2019, 04:06 PM - Forum: Mike Poulos E65/+20K/VSB scam - Replies (10)

For once Mr. Mike says some that are 100% the truth!! I quote  "this is not really an update".  

Mike in the past all that came from you never was an update, it has been lies on lies or begging for money like another homeless beggar.

So congratulations on your first honest update, which then is not really an update, as there is, as usual, not a fucking relevant or useful information for anyone.

Mike we're writing 2020 in a little while, and you can't move $ 400 in the western world without all the authorities wanting to know exactly where the money is coming from, in other words, Mike there are NO secrets anymore, so just tell the truth. Ahhh I see you can't do just that.

I hope you will have peace with your God when that time comes because you know that I know it is all a big bluff. Unfortunately your wife and your adopted children share your last name and therefore have to live with the fact that the husband and adoptive father is/was a simple thief! What a legacy to pass on.

Anyway below another realy useless "update".

Hi All,

I have been getting emails and text about an update.

Things are moving along but other than that, I can not share anything except that I am expecting to get some sort of news in the next few weeks.

Note that just because I am expecting news, I may not be able to update or will be limited in what I can update.

As far as I know, all is going according to plan and there are no issues or problems that anyone has seen.

As always, when I have something that I can share, I will.

I know that some will not be happy because this is not really an update. It is not. It is just to let you know that I am here as is everyone else and we are working on this.



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  All the sudden...waste of time to read...
Posted by: Bogor - 08-09-2019, 07:23 PM - Forum: Mike Poulos E65/+20K/VSB scam - Replies (20)

All the sudden stuff can be sent from the very same bank......

Anyhow wanna waste your time, then read all the blablabla because blablabla it is!!

Hi All,

Lots to chat about and I am not sure I can give you everything I have right now but I will do my best.

First, Hong Kong is no longer an option for us.

Everything is being moved out.

The gold that we have in storage has been approved for a move. I can not say if it has or not and where it is going due to security issues.

For the Banking, we will still be using the same banking group. Changing all the bank info from HK to a new location will not be complicated.

In a laymans term, the best way for me to explain is this:

------ The current bank will exprort all account info into a excel sheet and the new bank will then import and place thier own account numbers..

Now, understand that this is not what they are going to do but just a example so that you understand that it will not be that complicated.

Packages are going to be shipped to a new location.

Once banking has been resolved, packages will be redone. This will not take forever but will take a few minutes to do. I say minutes so you understand that it will not take forever.

All Individual and Family foundations will not change. Nor will the Ex Foundations change..... They have been set up and are fine as they are.

As for the Ex Fdtn memners, a new location has been approved and is being set up. However, again, because of secutiry issues, this location will only be disclosed once travel is ready.

Upon arriving at the destination, we will be there 2 or 3 days and then will move to an other location a few hours away, again, to provide us with a little extra security.

We are at a place where our privacy in this is just as important as our getting this done. There have been too many people sharing the info outside the groups and this is the only way to protect everyone.

Once all this has been settled, the Ex Members will be getting contacted by the travel agents regarding travel. However, before this starts, I will let you know to get ready to be contacted.

For all other members, once the Exx Fdtn members have been or are being processed, all packages will be going out.

All packages will be sent to your home country in bulk but courrier and then from your country, sent via courier again unless it is going to a PO box.

As example, everyone in the US will receive thier packages from the US. Everyone from Sweden, will get it from Sweden, etc......

If you are able to change your address from a PO box to a street address, please do so at the following link:


Remember, everyone that can have the package delivered by courier will get by courier.....

This will save everyone a lot of time.

Remember, when you get your package, you will have some documents to send back so do not delay in sending them back.

You will have a address in your home country to send the documents back too.

This is already being prepared and as the packages are received back, they will be forwarded for processing.

Now, regading banking, we will be using a top 10 banking group worldwide. This banking group have banks in every country.

As an example, I will use Citibank. (NOTE THAT IT IS NOT CITIBANK)

So, lets say everyone's account is with Citibank, you will be able to go to your local branch and do your banking.

Also remember that for all members, we are not hiding or trying to avoid taxes in any way, shape or form so if you are required to pay taxes, this is on you to do so.

By having local banking available, it will be easier for you, no matter where you live to access your funds.

For you that have any of the foundations, the accounts will be opened in the foundation's name with you are having 100% control on your foundations.

For Ex Members, there are all the other options that have been discussed before and you will have the opportunity to explore these when we meet at the new location.

As for internet banking, for all members, this will be available to you via the local banks at thier descretion.

I do not expect to have much to update in the next month or so but as soon as I do, I will update you all.

Just remember that I will not expose to anyone where the meetings are being held at this time and that I can not say or give a date either.

In closing, I have a personal message for MK.

MK, I am sure you know who you are. Sending me an email as you did last week, telling me people are dying all over the place and saying it the way you said, was telling me that I am responsible for people dying all over the place. I really want to thank you for accusing me of killing peoiple all over the place. This was very grown up of you.

Be grateful that I am not mentioning where you are or your full name as I really, really wanted too.

I know many of you are frustrated as I am too but there is nothing I can do. What happened in HK has and had nothing to do with me.... Yes, there are some that think it did.... Silly me, the cause of everyone's problems.....

Putting your like on hold for this or any other project is just plain and simple stupid. It will happen when it happens.... As I said at the very start of this program, there have never been any promisses that this will pan out but the one promise I did make was that I will stay till the end and I am still here...

I am tired of people accusing me of well, like MK said, "People are dying all over the place."

So, what I am saying here is that no matter what, I am here and will be here till the end. When this pahhens, it will. It is not long IF & WHEN.... It is a matter of time and that is all it is, Time..... How long, I have no idea at this point.

Thank you


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  Next update from Mike will be...
Posted by: Bogor - 29-08-2019, 09:43 AM - Forum: Mike Poulos E65/+20K/VSB scam - No Replies

Mikes next update will most likely contain information regards Chinees military have entered Hong Kong.
There will not be ANY information regards businesses run 100% normal in Hong Kong, especially banking won't change because of the military will take over control of the city, in fact, it will remove the demonstrators from the streets, airport, etc.  Angel

So Mike save your breathe and come with some REAL SOLID information instead of your normal blablabla


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  Here we go again.....
Posted by: Bogor - 13-08-2019, 03:36 PM - Forum: Mike Poulos E65/+20K/VSB scam - Replies (5)

Here we go again, lots of words but not ONE single proof!! At the end of this looooong and again non-saying blablabla our dear Mike post 3 links and none of these tells about problems in Hong Kong business-wise, and the reason is that business in Hong kong runs normally despite the protesters.

So why dont we see major banks run out of HK, simple logic, no one want to piss off China and start to complain, and that is why business runs just like last week, last month, last year etc.

The airport was closed for a few hours, not days so once again Mike tries to manipulate you to think its all because of HK. The truth is there are no funds to share.

Hi All,

Please remember that I am just the messenger..

HK is getting worst by the day.

Plans are being made to move out of HK.

A more detailed update will follow in the following days or a week or so but for now, this is what I can share.

All banking is going to change. All packages will also be changing due to the banking changes.

We will not be staying in HK and all funding will be moved out of HK.

This has been something that has been planed for a long time in case anything happened and now it has.

A new location is being worked on and will be announced when after everything has been settled and packages are going out.

For Ex Fdtn Members, I can not say at this time if there will be a travel set up or packages going to you with video calls at this time but they are working on getting your stuff done as they were prepared for HK.

Please understand that this is not a matter of only a few transfers being made to get out of HK and that this will take time.

I have no idea how long it will take but it will take the time that is needed so asking me how long, I will say as I say now, I have no idea.

All expections were that HK would settle down but it is not.

Yesterday the airport had canceled all flight going out of HK and then later one, incoming flights.

At one point in time I will be called upon to do some signing of docs to apporve the move as will the other 8 people that are needed. I have no idea how this or when it will be done but it is being worked on as fast as possible.

For now, I can only give you some links showing what is going on in HK.







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