Does anyone remember that the ex-foundation 'members' were supposed to fly to Hong Kong in JANUARY 2019?

That will soon be a year.......yeah....

And does anyone remember when "updates" were being done on the VSB site, in OCTOBER 2014 there was an "update" that said 'GET READY".  Just those two words.  Does anyone know what that meant since we are now 5 YEARS past that ??

Since this monumental scam has been going on for 20 years [yes since 1999], I wonder how many 'members' and 'downline' have already died ?

I thank ahead of time, anyone who can help me with these questions.

For sure Mike have had a great monday evening with at little too much red wine - again. Typos is okay but the rubish below - what can I say 

Soon we will be in 2020 and guess what. You have not seen ANYTHING from Mike.

Please remember this. THERE IS ONLY MIKE!! NO TEAMS - NOTHING!

Have a great day - 17 days to December and then Christmas time will come over us all.



Hi All,


Been getting lots of emails and Text that it has been a month since the lst update.

I have not received anything other than once they are ready, it will go fast but to date, they are not ready.

As for banking, they are still in the works. All banking had to change... This is a huge task to do.

For members, it will be the same, no changes there. Just the bank has been changed from one to an other.

For foundation members, again, will be same.

For Ex Fdtn members, the notice will be a short one. If one can not travel, then all can be done via video and courier.

As mentioned before, all packages will be sent from your country of residence and will be done at all the same time....

From there, it will be up to you how fast you reply.

Once I have more news, I will share but this is all I have for now.

I may have more this week or in a few weeks. When I do, I will post. If I DO NOT, there these is nothing to post.

For people asking me can you give me more, I will keep to my self, please do not as I will or can not give more than I give here.

Thanks

MIKE

For once Mr. Mike says some that are 100% the truth!! I quote  "this is not really an update".  

Mike in the past all that came from you never was an update, it has been lies on lies or begging for money like another homeless beggar.

So congratulations on your first honest update, which then is not really an update, as there is, as usual, not a fucking relevant or useful information for anyone.

Mike we're writing 2020 in a little while, and you can't move $ 400 in the western world without all the authorities wanting to know exactly where the money is coming from, in other words, Mike there are NO secrets anymore, so just tell the truth. Ahhh I see you can't do just that.

I hope you will have peace with your God when that time comes because you know that I know it is all a big bluff. Unfortunately your wife and your adopted children share your last name and therefore have to live with the fact that the husband and adoptive father is/was a simple thief! What a legacy to pass on.

Anyway below another realy useless "update".



Hi All,


I have been getting emails and text about an update.

Things are moving along but other than that, I can not share anything except that I am expecting to get some sort of news in the next few weeks.

Note that just because I am expecting news, I may not be able to update or will be limited in what I can update.

As far as I know, all is going according to plan and there are no issues or problems that anyone has seen.

As always, when I have something that I can share, I will.

I know that some will not be happy because this is not really an update. It is not. It is just to let you know that I am here as is everyone else and we are working on this.

Thanks

MIKE

All the sudden stuff can be sent from the very same bank......

Anyhow wanna waste your time, then read all the blablabla because blablabla it is!!


Hi All,


Lots to chat about and I am not sure I can give you everything I have right now but I will do my best.

First, Hong Kong is no longer an option for us.

Everything is being moved out.

The gold that we have in storage has been approved for a move. I can not say if it has or not and where it is going due to security issues.

For the Banking, we will still be using the same banking group. Changing all the bank info from HK to a new location will not be complicated.

In a laymans term, the best way for me to explain is this:


------ The current bank will exprort all account info into a excel sheet and the new bank will then import and place thier own account numbers..

Now, understand that this is not what they are going to do but just a example so that you understand that it will not be that complicated.

Packages are going to be shipped to a new location.

Once banking has been resolved, packages will be redone. This will not take forever but will take a few minutes to do. I say minutes so you understand that it will not take forever.

All Individual and Family foundations will not change. Nor will the Ex Foundations change..... They have been set up and are fine as they are.

As for the Ex Fdtn memners, a new location has been approved and is being set up. However, again, because of secutiry issues, this location will only be disclosed once travel is ready.

Upon arriving at the destination, we will be there 2 or 3 days and then will move to an other location a few hours away, again, to provide us with a little extra security.

We are at a place where our privacy in this is just as important as our getting this done. There have been too many people sharing the info outside the groups and this is the only way to protect everyone.

Once all this has been settled, the Ex Members will be getting contacted by the travel agents regarding travel. However, before this starts, I will let you know to get ready to be contacted.

For all other members, once the Exx Fdtn members have been or are being processed, all packages will be going out.

All packages will be sent to your home country in bulk but courrier and then from your country, sent via courier again unless it is going to a PO box.

As example, everyone in the US will receive thier packages from the US. Everyone from Sweden, will get it from Sweden, etc......

If you are able to change your address from a PO box to a street address, please do so at the following link:


https://bullshit.scam

Remember, everyone that can have the package delivered by courier will get by courier.....

This will save everyone a lot of time.

Remember, when you get your package, you will have some documents to send back so do not delay in sending them back.

You will have a address in your home country to send the documents back too.

This is already being prepared and as the packages are received back, they will be forwarded for processing.

Now, regading banking, we will be using a top 10 banking group worldwide. This banking group have banks in every country.

As an example, I will use Citibank. (NOTE THAT IT IS NOT CITIBANK)

So, lets say everyone's account is with Citibank, you will be able to go to your local branch and do your banking.

Also remember that for all members, we are not hiding or trying to avoid taxes in any way, shape or form so if you are required to pay taxes, this is on you to do so.

By having local banking available, it will be easier for you, no matter where you live to access your funds.

For you that have any of the foundations, the accounts will be opened in the foundation's name with you are having 100% control on your foundations.

For Ex Members, there are all the other options that have been discussed before and you will have the opportunity to explore these when we meet at the new location.

As for internet banking, for all members, this will be available to you via the local banks at thier descretion.

I do not expect to have much to update in the next month or so but as soon as I do, I will update you all.

Just remember that I will not expose to anyone where the meetings are being held at this time and that I can not say or give a date either.

In closing, I have a personal message for MK.

MK, I am sure you know who you are. Sending me an email as you did last week, telling me people are dying all over the place and saying it the way you said, was telling me that I am responsible for people dying all over the place. I really want to thank you for accusing me of killing peoiple all over the place. This was very grown up of you.

Be grateful that I am not mentioning where you are or your full name as I really, really wanted too.

I know many of you are frustrated as I am too but there is nothing I can do. What happened in HK has and had nothing to do with me.... Yes, there are some that think it did.... Silly me, the cause of everyone's problems.....

Putting your like on hold for this or any other project is just plain and simple stupid. It will happen when it happens.... As I said at the very start of this program, there have never been any promisses that this will pan out but the one promise I did make was that I will stay till the end and I am still here...

I am tired of people accusing me of well, like MK said, "People are dying all over the place."

So, what I am saying here is that no matter what, I am here and will be here till the end. When this pahhens, it will. It is not long IF & WHEN.... It is a matter of time and that is all it is, Time..... How long, I have no idea at this point.

Thank you

MIKE

Mikes next update will most likely contain information regards Chinees military have entered Hong Kong.
There will not be ANY information regards businesses run 100% normal in Hong Kong, especially banking won't change because of the military will take over control of the city, in fact, it will remove the demonstrators from the streets, airport, etc. 

So Mike save your breathe and come with some REAL SOLID information instead of your normal blablabla

/Bogor

Here we go again, lots of words but not ONE single proof!! At the end of this looooong and again non-saying blablabla our dear Mike post 3 links and none of these tells about problems in Hong Kong business-wise, and the reason is that business in Hong kong runs normally despite the protesters.

So why dont we see major banks run out of HK, simple logic, no one want to piss off China and start to complain, and that is why business runs just like last week, last month, last year etc.

The airport was closed for a few hours, not days so once again Mike tries to manipulate you to think its all because of HK. The truth is there are no funds to share.




Hi All,

Please remember that I am just the messenger..

HK is getting worst by the day.

Plans are being made to move out of HK.

A more detailed update will follow in the following days or a week or so but for now, this is what I can share.

All banking is going to change. All packages will also be changing due to the banking changes.

We will not be staying in HK and all funding will be moved out of HK.

This has been something that has been planed for a long time in case anything happened and now it has.

A new location is being worked on and will be announced when after everything has been settled and packages are going out.

For Ex Fdtn Members, I can not say at this time if there will be a travel set up or packages going to you with video calls at this time but they are working on getting your stuff done as they were prepared for HK.

Please understand that this is not a matter of only a few transfers being made to get out of HK and that this will take time.

I have no idea how long it will take but it will take the time that is needed so asking me how long, I will say as I say now, I have no idea.

All expections were that HK would settle down but it is not.

Yesterday the airport had canceled all flight going out of HK and then later one, incoming flights.

At one point in time I will be called upon to do some signing of docs to apporve the move as will the other 8 people that are needed. I have no idea how this or when it will be done but it is being worked on as fast as possible.

For now, I can only give you some links showing what is going on in HK.

Thanks

MIKE





https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/tran...rport-left



https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/...-hong-kong

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/3...lout-after



https://www.rt.com/news/466305-china-hon...mpaign=RSS

Dear Mike 

A lot can be said about you, but you really love to put yourself up. Just like in the old days where you claimed to do lunches with the Suharto (former dictator in Indonesia) family, or when you claimed that CIA, FBI, and NSA were tailing you 24/7 and that you in fact feared for your life.

My dearest Mike Poulos - I'm sorry to break the news here. Try to do a Google on your own name. No one - not even in the most corrupted regime would do business with you!!

Business on the level you are TRYING to make people believe demands and first of all a perfect grammar, just in your lie below you will find minimum 5 typos. For that reason alone you would not even get past the first secretary, not to mention see the managing secretary.

When I did some high-level business with Susilo Bambang - or TRIED to do, I had to make sure the finance of the project was 100% perfect and in order, then at that point I wasn't able to have a personal meeting with the high-level bankers in BNI, and that project was a small one worth 2,2 billion us dollar. I was not "heavy" enough business-wise. A huge international company took over the project and "funny" enough huge international companies kinda work together - not with small individuals like me, who actually and opposite you, have educational records, financial records and is NOT mentioned all over the net as a thief, scammer, and whatnot as you are!

Personally, I do NOT for one second believe that you have been in HK for the last minimum of 18 months, as your so-called business plan doesn't require personal meetings and signatures. Even in Indonesia, we have an electronic signature solution and sure as hell also in HK - as I'm talking about the HSBC bank.

Mike Poulos, you are getting old and can't keep up with technologies anymore, which make your lies so pathetic.

For those few who still believe Mike will make them rich - I feel so sorry for them as the lies below are so thick that even the hardest Poulos believer should be able to see it. 

Have a great continuing summer 



Hi ALL,

Still no news this week and the protests are still going on in HK.

Many say it is fine to go and a few members have been there but if it was just me, I would of likely gone but it is not just me.

Just to explain a little to you all, out of the 8 people that need to be there, plus me, there are heads of banks, Insdurance companies etc that are not easy to get to go to HK on a few days notice. These people are busy. Running a top 10 bank or insurance company is not like you and me....

They all need to be in HK at the same time. Yes, we are looking at options but we need to all be there at the same time.

We need to verify the accounts, the gold stored and that needs to be done on location.

Packages are just a drop in the bucket so to speak and they are ready but can not go out till everyone signed off.

Messaging me privatly will not speed things up. Not to mention that some days I get tons of messages to reply the same thing too each time.

I would appreaciate that you do not message me asking or suggesting options as these are being looked into and all it does is takes time from other things I need to do.

I know and understand that you all want closure soon, as do I and it will come but for now I can not say when.

In the mean time, when I get some news, I will let you all know.

Thank you

MIKE

Hi ALL,


Although I have still not received my travel instructions for HK there has been some progress towards that.

As previously mentioned, there are 8 people who all need to gather in HK together to sign off on what we expect to be the final stage of the programme.

This cant be done in another city or country as much of the business needs to happen in specific banks and lawyers premises in HK.

The majority of those who need to travel to HK are senior people in banking / insurance and legal businesses in other countries and, by the nature of their businesses they are busy people.

While I am ready to travel as soon as required, this is not the case for several of the others.
They need some time to rearrange their business schedules and make several days available to complete this task. HK has to work with all of us to find a window that works for everyone. Its not just a matter of saying, "be here next Wednesday morning"!

The protest activity complicated the issue as some were not happy about exposing themselves to possible danger and some companies just don't send their senior people into risky situations.

Much of the heat seems to have gone from the current protests but it is still not over. There are plenty of issues to be dealt with as they (HK)  move to full integration with Beijing so protest on any issue could flair up at any time.

Not all is gloom and doom though. I am pretty sure that packages are ready, and providing all parties are happy with the arrangements for distribution and further processing, they can be sent.
Just when that will happen I cant say as I don't know.

I will know that sort of thing after my trip to HK and will share what I can at that time. As soon as I have a travel date I will share that with you and if possible will update you all from HK.

In the meantime, I understand your stress and can only suggest that you bear with me, I am doing what I can, I want this as much or more than you do.

MIKE

More of the same none saying crap 


Hi All,

OK, I got notification that HK will arrange for my travel soon.

There is a group of people that needs to be there at the same time and they need to arrange it so that we are all there at the same time.

I have not been told how long this will take but it can be as fast as a few weeks to maybe a little longer.

Once I have more news I will share with you all.

In the mean time, sending me a text asking me how long I think it will take, I will not be able to give more details than I have here.

Thanks

MIKE

Few in here believe it's okay to call me names, use sarcasm and what not.

The only person, members are allowed to call names is Mike Poulos!! I won't tolerate members calling each other names or other ugly use of any languages.

This means that I neither won't tolerate being called names, asked to go fuck myself or sarcastically called genius.

Now as I said a few believed that they were above these very simple rules, and for that reason, they got a fair warning, send to them privately. Unfortunately, they just continued and even they were warned about being banned - the went on.
now they are banned for 2 weeks.

If they feel they still can behave like that - then the next step is a permanent ban.

Now if it was up to me, and only me, then this forum was long gone (the same place as the money all sent to Mike) and I didn't have to spend time with something that should by now be clear as crystal - there is no money, no teams - just plain nothing. If you can't live with that very easy conclusion then start arguing - but with respect.

You call me names, I will find even worse names - but not in here, in private messages.

So debate, scream and shout but treat all with respect.

/J